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Cash for Clunkers Figures From the AP Analysis

    The AP finally got its hands on the raw data for claims against the CARS (Cash for Clunkers Program) and some of the deals are eye-raising. Despite it all, the fuel efficiency of trade-ins averaged 15.8 mpg, while the new vehicles averages 24.9 mpg.

    The AP has been trying for four months to get the claims data from the administration. And Edmunds and others have been arguing with the administration about the cost and whether it was worth the money.

    Some eye-raising stats from the AP analysis.
    • Despite the big difference in overall mpg improvement for the program the most common swap made, at over 8,200 times, was an old Ford F-150 for a new Ford F-150. The mpg increase was around 1 to 3 mpg in those trades.
    • Thousands more bought new Silverados or Dodge pickups with their trade-ins. In Texas, seven of the 10 most common transactions involved drivers trading old pickups for new ones.
    • 677,081 clunker trade-ins cost the taxpayers almost $3 billion to fund. That money went to purchase $15.2 billion dollars in new vehicles at nearly 19,000 dealerships across all of the states.
    • Around 95,000 of the new vehicles got less than 20 mpg. That's about one in seven.
    • The government is currently investigating $562,500 in rebates that were apparently used to buy new cars that had worse or the same mileage as the trade-ins.
    • California had the most deals made with 76 thousand. Texas had 43 thousand (mostly for trucks) and New York saw 37 thousand deals made.
    • One dealership had 1,432 sales, worth more than $30 million. The next closest had 672 sales.
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Edmunds and Obama Fight it Out Over Cash for Clunkers

    The Cash for Clunkers Program is over and done, but the overall benefit and cost is still being debated.  On Wednesday, Edmunds laid out a study showing it cost taxpayers $24,000 per vehicle sold under the Cash for Clunkers Program.

    Edmunds Lays Out the Cost
    What it boils down to, for Edmunds, is despite 690,000 sales being made under the Cash for Clunkers Program, they believe only 129,000 would not have been made otherwise.  They based it on what the prediction for sales was, plus the 'hangover' affect slowing sales before and after the program
    "Our research indicates that without the Cash for Clunkers program, many customers would not have traded in an old vehicle when making a new purchase," Edmunds.com Senior Analyst David Tompkins, PhD told AutoObserver.com. "That may give some credence to the environmental claims, but unfortunately the economic claims have been rendered quite weak."
    The White House Gets Angry

    That analysis seems to have ticked off the whitehouse.  Waxing on the sarcastic side, the Whitehouse blog accuses Edmunds of attempting to grab headlines (which they did: CNN).  The White House went on to say Edmunds was saying "all the other cars were being sold on Mars."

    I think their counter was strong enough not to need the sarcasm, but that's just me.

    Anyways, the White House points out that "people were drawn into dealerships by the Cash for Clunkers program and ended up buying cars even though their old car was not eligible for the program."  And 2) "Major automakers including GM, Ford, Honda and Chrysler all increased their production through the end of the year as a result of this program, which will help boost growth beyond the third quarter."

    The White House points to a CEA report, which estimates the number of sales made as a result of the CARS program at being 3-4X higher than that of Edmunds.  There's a lot of fuzziness around both numbers, but that's the problem with these analysis.

    The report cited by the White House says exactly that in the first sentence of their conclusion: "The analysis contained here is necessarily speculative, because little can be said with confidence about two key questions: what is the time frame over which the “payback” effect will occur, and what would the pace of clunker-replacement-induced demand for new cars have been in the absence of the program?"

    Edmunds Reply
    Edmunds has fired back saying "The truth is that consumer incentive programs are always hugely expensive when calculated by incremental sales — always in the tens of thousands of dollars. Cash for Clunkers was no exception."  They also point out the claim for drawing potential customers in was "widely supported by anecdote but by little analysis."  And finally "the economy is recovering accompanied by improved car sales. No manufacturer increases production -- a decision with long-term consequences -- based on the 30-day sales blip triggered by an event like Cash for Clunkers."

    As an aside: One wonders if, like the banks, the auto makers started increasing production so quickly based on pressure from the government.   The banks were told to take the loans being offered, and GM and Chrysler are still the major beneficiaries of government 'aid.'  It's fair to suppose the production increases may have been political decisions, even if they weren't asked to do so.

    Who Wins?
    So, who's right?  I'd say they both were.  Certainly, when Edmunds focused in tightly on what the cost per vehicle was, that cost is going to be high.  And they are certainly right to say that most of the sales during the program would have happened anyways.  The number they use may be low, but sales would have happened with or without the CARS program.

    I would argue the Dept of Transportation and the Whitehouse did not need to be sarcastic in their counter, but they definitely were correct in pointing out the bigger picture.  But that picture is not as black and white as they say.  The long term economic recovery is what is driving the car makers to increase production, not the C4C program.

    Was the program helpful at a low point for the manufacturers? Absolutely. Although it was harder on the dealers than the administration would probably want to talk about, Edmunds figures show at least an increase of over 100K sales. That's not nothing.

    But the high cost per vehicle is also a key reminder that such programs, while helpful for the overall economy, do cost a lot to run and the tax payers paid it. Was there a payback? Was it worth it? These, unfortunately, aren't answerable. Not in the real world, which is too fluid and when either direction can find indicators for it.

    Follow Up
    It seems that Detroit News writer David Shepardson is siding with the White House in their argument with Edmunds. He points out (See
    detnews.com) the different estimates: Ford says 30-40 percent of the sales were from the Cash for Clunkers (CARS) program (210,000-280,000), GM thought it was 500,000 and Moody estimated the difference at 60 percent (420,000).

    That's quite a range of numbers to deal with.  Edmunds is clearly on the more pessimistic side, while GM is clearly the most optimistic about the affect, although both the government and the Moody figures are obviously on the more 'optimistic' side.

    But most damaging to Edmunds is the quote from Mike Jackson, chairman and CEO of AutoNation.
    While Edmunds is usually highly respected within the automotive industry for its accuracy and reliability, he said, its analysis of the cash for clunkers program is "shoddy."

    "Simply put, they've misrepresented the facts, and the White House is completely justified in calling them out on it," Jackson said, adding that it appears "Edmunds' political views have tainted their usual rigorous approach to research."
    Ouch! The shoddy remark in particular was pretty harsh. None of those involved in the argument can truly be treated as disinterested parties, however. Any estimate from Ford or GM, especially, have to be taken with a grain of salt. The same can be said of AutoNation, Moody's and Edmunds. And certainly the White House has a stake in how the program is perceived.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Cash For Clunkers Top 20

    I know about how statistics can lie, but it seems that numbers can mislead just as badly. The government, when it released its numbers on the Cash for Clunkers program, kept touting the top 10 vehicles being sold.

    Too bad they didn't emphasize they were splitting up the two-wheel or four-wheel drive models. To be fair, the lists released did have FWD on them, but it's still misleading.

    The choice they made to split up FWD and AWD tended to keep any trucks, as opposed to cars that don't have the options, down the list. Well, the numbers were released and the Detroit Free Press put together the list for us to see.

    Top 20 models sold under the U.S. government’s cash-for-clunkers program, according to a Free Press analysis of data released this weekend.
    1. Toyota Corolla 29,488
    2. Honda Civic 28,456
    3. Toyota Camry 27,137
    4. Ford Focus 22,388
    5. Ford Escape 21,894
    6. Honda CR-V 20,106
    7. Hyundai Elantra 19,797
    8. Chevrolet Cobalt 16,724
    9. Chevrolet Silverado 16,330
    10. Nissan Versa 16,300
    11. Ford F150 16,263
    12. Honda Accord 15,922
    13. Nissan Altima 15,426
    14. Toyota RAV4 15,255
    15. Toyota Prius 15,013
    16. Ford Fusion 13,415
    17. Honda Fit 12,361
    18. Nissan Sentra 12,158
    19. Chevrolet Aveo 11,557
    20. Toyota Tacoma 10,692
    As you can see, the Prius, which the government had at number 7, is actually number 15.  And the top 10 vehicles purchased using government money includes the Escape, CR-V, and Silverado.  And don't forget the F150 sitting at number 11.

    Fuel economy definitely went up for the trade-ins, although the long term impact of the program will probably be minimal from a national standpoint.  But it's little things like this that make you wonder why they couldn't just release the numbers as the program was progressing?Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Final Cash for Clunkers Numbers

    The final Cash for Clunkers numbers have been released.  With 690,114 deals submitted, the final bill will total $2.877 billion.  That was after the deadline was extended for submissions until Tuesday evening. The deadline was extended when the CARS website went down for dealers on Monday.

    The White House Council of Economic Advisers said the program will create or save 42,000 jobs in the second half of the year.  Check out my list of winners and losers during the C.A.R.S. Program.

    Toyota, Honda and Nissan outpaced the 'domestic' auto makers; GM, Ford and Chrysler 41% to 39%.

    New Vehicles Manufacturers
    Toyota - 19.4%
    General Motors - 17.6%
    Ford - 14.4%
    Honda - 13.0%
    Nissan - 8.7%
    Hyundai - 7.2%
    Chrysler - 6.6%
    Kia - 4.3%
    Subaru - 2.5%
    Mazda - 2.4%
    Volkswagen - 2.0%
    Suzuki - 0.6%
    Mitsubishi - 0.5%
    MINI - 0.4%
    Smart - 0.2%
    Volvo - 0.1%
    All Other - <0.1%

    The average fuel economy of the trade-ins ended at 15.8 mpg, while the new vehicles averaged 24.9 mpg.  The result is a 9.2 mpg increase or 58% improvement.

    Vehicles Purchased by Category
    Passenger Cars: 404,046
    Category 1 Truck: 231,651
    Category 2 Truck: 46,836
    Category 3 Truck: 2,408
     
    Vehicle Trade-in by Category
    Passenger Cars: 109,380
    Category 1 Truck: 450,778
    Category 2 Truck: 116,909
    Category 3 Truck: 8,134

    Top 10 new vehicles purchased
    1. Toyota Corolla
    2. Honda Civic
    3. Toyota Camry
    4. Ford Focus FWD
    5. Hyundai Elantra
    6. Nissan Versa
    7. Toyota Prius
    8. Honda Accord
    9. Honda Fit
    10. Ford Escape FWD

    Top 10 trade-in vehicles
    1. Ford Explorer 4WD
    2. Ford F150 Pickup 2WD
    3. Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD
    4. Ford Explorer 2WD
    5. Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan 2WD
    6. Jeep Cherokee 4WD
    7. Chevrolet Blazer 4WD
    8. Chevrolet C1500 Pickup 2WD
    9. Ford F150 Pickup 4WD
    10. Ford Windstar FWD Van

    Requested Voucher Dollar Amount by State:
    ALABAMA $31,251,500
    ALASKA $4,868,500
    ARIZONA $39,542,500
    ARKANSAS $23,402,500
    CALIFORNIA $326,822,000
    COLORADO $37,676,500
    CONNECTICUT $40,114,000
    DELAWARE $11,235,000
    DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA $67,500
    FLORIDA $146,565,000
    GEORGIA $70,496,000
    GUAM $675,000
    HAWAII $7,333,500
    IDAHO $11,655,000
    ILLINOIS $143,613,000
    INDIANA $65,797,000
    IOWA $37,728,000
    KANSAS $31,496,500
    KENTUCKY $40,246,500
    LOUISIANA $33,376,500
    MAINE $16,579,500
    MARYLAND $74,903,000
    MASSACHUSETTS $64,855,000
    MICHIGAN $132,407,500
    MINNESOTA $73,160,500
    MISSISSIPPI $12,463,500
    MISSOURI $61,271,500
    MONTANA $6,461,000
    NEBRASKA $21,784,500
    NEVADA $14,582,000
    NEW HAMPSHIRE $23,045,500
    NEW JERSEY $103,375,500
    NEW MEXICO $13,941,500
    NEW YORK $156,292,000
    NORTH CAROLINA $78,601,500
    NORTH DAKOTA $8,938,000
    OHIO $136,267,000
    OKLAHOMA $37,422,000
    OREGON $37,531,500
    PENNSYLVANIA $138,651,500
    PUERTO RICO $2,252,000
    RHODE ISLAND $10,690,500
    SOUTH CAROLINA $37,207,500
    SOUTH DAKOTA $10,367,500
    TENNESSEE $50,949,000
    TEXAS $183,776,500
    UTAH $24,102,500
    VERMONT $9,879,000
    VIRGIN ISLANDS $1,553,000
    VIRGINIA $98,523,500
    WASHINGTON $55,927,500
    WEST VIRGINIA $13,477,000
    WISCONSIN $70,165,000
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CARS (Cash for Clunkers) Website Broken Again

    So, here we are on the last day and the CARS website is broken again. As dealers rush to submit all the last minute claims by 8 PM tonight, they have apparently overwhelmed the government run site again.

    Although that might not be a bad thing, given that some dealers wanted some extra time to make sure they got all their entries in anyways. A hard deadline of 8 PM tonight was set, but given the hiccup in service, I'm wondering if the deadline will be extended.

    On the other hand, that might be a bad thing since 635,186 claims for $2.65 billion have already been submitted, according to the Dept of Transportation. With only $3 billion in the well, it has some dealers wondering if the government will cover their deal if they overrun the limit.

    See the winners and losers in the cash for clunkers program for more details on the CARS program. Both its successes and failures have been a free-for-all ride that seems to be determined to continue right up to the last minute.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Cash for Clunkers Ending : Check Out the Winners and Losers

    Cash for Clunkers will officially end on Monday at 8 p.m. But don't wait till then to make the deal if you're still interested. That's the hard deadline for dealers to file their paperwork, although based on history, I'm guessing they'll be given time to have the claim rejected for errors, at which point they can resubmit.

    Cash for Clunkers to end on Monday - Yahoo! News
    The popular program will end at 8 p.m. EDT Monday after burning through much of its $3 billion in funding in just a month. All new deals will have to be completed and dealers must file their paperwork by the deadline in order to get repaid for the big incentives.
    While the program has certainly increased sales for car makers over the past month and a half, the program has certainly seen a lot of issues that made it a headache for almost everyone else.

    History of the Cash for Clunkers (CARS) program
    After setting aside $1 Billion in funding, car makers quickly jumped on board, setting up advertising and websites for customers to get all the details.

    The program was criticized roundly by analysts and environmentalists. One thought the impact would minimal on sales, while the other thought the environmental impact that was being touted would be negligible.

    Government Gets a Refresh
    Then there was the 'refresh' of fuel economy figures by the government. Vehicles on the borderline were being pushed back up over the minimum fuel economy requirement even after the program had begun. Which meant that some vehicles were being sold under the program were no longer eligible for the program. The government ended up telling dealers if they had made the deal before the 'refresh' the government would still cover the sale.

    Is There Such a Thing as Being Too Popular?
    The CARS program was so popular with dealers at first, they crashed the website almost immediately after it was opened. Within a week of its official beginning, the program was almost brought to a halt since the Billion dollars set aside was already gone.

    Congress worked 'quickly' to set aside another $2 Billion for the program. The CARS program was supposed to last four months on $1 billion. It took almost four days to burn through most of that. The two billion add-on helped the program last one month in total. The program was originally going to be funded for $4 billion and last one year.

    The Check is in the Mail
    Then dealers started complaining that it was taking too long to get the money from the government. Processors working on the claims were doubled, then tripled, but even over the past few days, little of the promised rebates have gotten to dealers.

    This causes big issues for the dealers because they have to pay for the car within days of selling it. Dealers complained they had sold over 100 cars using the program, but did not have the money to cover the cost of the rebate to pay off the car.

    Things were so bad, Chrysler, Nissan and GM both ended up promising to cover the cost with interest free loans, while Toyota has added a 60 day loan that is not interest free for dealers until they get paid by the government. In the meantime, a lot of the cars sold under the program are still sitting on dealer lots, waiting for the payment to come through. Dealers are refusing to deliver until they've received payment.

    Numbers? What Numbers?
    Although the Transportation Department has released summarized tables on the program almost daily (see the halfway point), the AP and others have complained loudly that the Obama administration refuses to release the full list of trade-ins and purchases. Certainly, the figures released have been slightly different than those compiled elsewhere by surveys (which is to be expected). But why not release the full list?

    The final numbers put the total at $2.877 Billion, with a total of 690,114 submissions.

    Winners and Losers

    In the end, the government is claiming the program has been a wild success. It's certainly been way more popular than expected. But 'success' is defined by the beholder.

    Environmentalists laud the increase in fuel economy, while denouncing the 'recycled' vehicles going into the landfills. They also point out the program could have been set up to improve the fuel economy a lot more.

    Analysts were right that the number of sales made were a small portion of those made on an annual basis, and are worried that these sales are just ones that would have already been made, if not now. Instead, they worry the program has accelerated the sales of that would have been made over the coming year, which now that the program is ending, will put a crimp on future sales.

    Dealers, while extremely excited about the foot traffic and extra sales, have been going into the hole to cover the costs of waiting for the rebates from the government. It's gotten so bad that a lot of dealerships were already backing out of the program, before it's official end. In fact, dealer associations were asking the government to end the program sooner rather than later.

    Auto maker executives and workers are probably the only group who thought very highly of the program at the beginning and are still excited about it. It certainly led to an increase in sales over the past couple of months, and did lead to several decisions to re-open or speed up production of certain vehicles. That certainly has to make the laborers happy. But I guess we'll have to see what the long term impact is on sales.

    Customers, I'm sure, were happy to get a new vehicle with such huge rebates on vehicles they could not have gotten a trade-for as much as they did. But it's been widely reported that car dealers were taking advantage and were not cutting back on the purchases as much as they normally would have. In other words, people were paying sticker price for the cars they normally would have haggled a lot more about.

    And that may be a problem for some. In the immediate aftermath, of 1,000 buyers surveyed by CNW Purchase Path, 17% said they had some or serious doubts that they should have made the new-vehicle acquisition.  Only 6-8% normally have buyers remorse after just one month according to the report.

    "Primary reason: They are now facing a $275-$350-per-month car payment that didn't exist prior to acquiring the car or truck. That amount, they say, could negatively impact the total family budget more than expected prior to buying the new vehicle."

    Tax revenues will certainly go up for some, both for sales and excise. That will certainly help some state and local tax bases. But then, the money came from the federal government, so tax money paid for it in the first place.

    Insurance companies are probably happy to have higher premiums being paid out on the more expensive vehicles.

    Charities are losing out, however. With these 'clunkers' being recycled, they will not end up in the hands of charities who would have normally gotten the donation.

    Tax payers may not be happy since they just spent $3 billion on a program to prop up auto makers who they have already paid billion to become part owners of. Unless they were the customers who participated in the program. I know I've heard of some resentment ("Where is my rebate for buying a fuel efficient vehicle in the first place?").


    And then there's the argument being made that Toyota has been the majority winner for sales under the program. Does that mean we just propped up a foreign company more than we helped the 'domestic' companies? I would have to say no, since the most popular cars being sold under the program are mostly made in the US (Yes, the cars from Toyota are made here). But the argument can be made, and won, in the other direction.


    How About You?
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Cash For Clunkers to Wind Down

    Even as J.D. Powers predicts the best month of the year due to the CARS program, the Obama administration is talking to dealers and telling them the program will be winding down, most likely by early September.

    J.D. Powers and Associates is expecting August retail sales at slightly more than 1 million units, up nearly 2 percent from one year ago.  This is the first time, if it happens, that sales will have increased year to year since June, 2007.
    Given the positive impact of the CARS program, J.D. Power and Associates is increasing its forecast for 2009 to 10.3 million units for total sales. Retail sales are projected to come in at 8.6 million units--300,000 units more than previously expected--while the projection for fleet sales has been reduced to account for a shortage in inventory.
    Meanwhile, the Obama administration is making plans to wind down the program. An announcement on the end is expected by tomorrow.

    Already 435,000 sales have been made using the Cash for Clunkers program. But dealers are still waiting on the money and are opting out of the program without waiting for the end.

    Last night on a new report, one dealer spoke about making over 100 deal with the CARS program, but he still hasn't seen one cent back from the government. He has started to hold up on delivering the vehicles to the new owners until they get a check from CARS. ("Dealers typically borrow money to put new cars on their lots and must repay those loans within a few days of a sale.")  Multiply 100 by $3,500 or $4,500 and you can quickly see why dealers are frustrated with the program.

    The program is tripling the number of people processing claims.

    In the meantime, despite receiving a lot of summary numbers, the AP and others are still waiting to get their hands on the full list of vehicles being turned in and sold.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Will Cash for Clunkers Last Much Longer

    As the CARS program, also known as Cash for Clunkers, now hits $1.8 Billion (out of the $3 Billion now available) in submissions, questions about how much longer the program will last are getting louder. Dealerships are apparently getting sick of waiting for their money.

    NY dealers pull out of clunkers program
    The Greater New York Automobile Dealers Association, which represents dealerships in the New York metro area, said about half its 425 members have left the program because they cannot afford to offer more rebates. They're also worried about getting repaid.

    Dealerships work on cash, and they can't afford to wait for the government to pay them back. I read the other day (I wish I had the source) that dealers have to pay the money they owe on the cars they sell within days of making the sale.

    Despite tripling the number of workers processing claims, dealerships are starting to opt out of the program.

    That may work to the CARS program advantage. At the pace they're running, the money is going to run out by the end of August, rather than in September.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Halfway Through the Cash for Clunkers Program

    The Cash for Clunkers program has reportedly seen 358,851 submissions for the program from dealerships. Those submissions indicate the government owes about $1.5 billion in rebates, making this the halfway point for the program. That is, unless the government once again decides to push more money out.

    The government has only released some summary numbers on the program so far. The AP and others have applied for the raw data, but so far they have not received anything.

    The latest figures from the government indicate that Toyota has surpassed GM for the most popular car maker to buy from using the CARS program.   Cars make up the majority of vehicle bought, while trucks are the majority of vehicles being recycled.  That leaves a lot of room for improvement in fuel economy (from 15.8 mpg to 25 mpg).  It's interesting to note the differences between what the government is releasing and the figures obtained from surveys by Edmunds and others.


    Top 5 manufacturers for new vehicles
    1. Toyota 18.9 percent
    2. GM 17.6 percent
    3. Ford 15.4 percent
    4. Honda Motor Co. 12.9 percent
    5. Chrysler 9.1 percent
    Top 10 new vehicles bought
    1. Toyota Corolla
    2. Honda Civic
    3. Ford Focus fwd
    4. Toyota Camry
    5. Toyota Prius
    6. Hyundai Elantra
    7. Ford Escape fwd
    8. Honda Fit
    9. Nissan Versa
    10. Honda CR-V 4WD
    Top 10 Vehicles to be Recycled
    1. Ford Explorer 4wd
    2. Ford F-150 2wd
    3. Jeep Grand Cherokee 4wd
    4. Jeep Cherokee 4wd
    5. Ford Explorer 2wd
    6. Dodge Caravan / Grand Caravan 2wd
    7. Chevrolet Blazer 4wd
    8. Ford F-150 4wd
    9. Chevrolet C1500 2wd
    10. Ford Windstar fwd
    Top 5 states by voucher amounts requested
    1. California $152.4 million
    2. Texas $91.1 million
    3. Michigan $80.6 million
    4. New York $77 million
    5. Ohio $76.3 million


    Types of Vehicles Purchased:
    • Passenger cars 208,378
    • Category 1 trucks 124,187
    • Category 2 trucks 22,157
    • Category 3 trucks 883

    Vehicles to be Recycled by Type
    • Passenger cars 60,365
    • Category 1 trucks 233,704
    • Category 2 trucks 58,154
    • Category 3 trucks 3,506

    Fuel Efficiency
    • Average fuel economy of purchases 25 mpg
    • Average fuel economy of trade-ins 15.8 mpg
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Cash For Clunkers Tripling Workforce

    Dealing with a backlog of submissions, the Cash for Clunkers (CARS) program is now tripling the work force to process claims from dealerships. The number of public and private sector workers will go from 350 to 1,100 by the end of the week.

    That's a lot of jobs to fill in just one week. I wonder what these people are going to do in a month or two when the program runs out of money?

    The CARS program has now seen submissions for $1.6 billion for more than 390,000 vehicle sales. Details on the submissions have yet to be released, although edmunds.com and others are trying to keep track.

    One little tidbit from edmunds, the Ford F-150 is number 2 on the list of vehicles being traded in to be recycled. But it's also number 8 on the list of vehicles being purchased. You don't see this sort of thing on the government releases.

    GM and Honda are ramping up production slightly. GM is planning on building some more Chevy Malibu and Cobalts, while Honda is looking to make more Civics and CR-Vs. But don't expect them to be anything but cautious in producing more vehicles. Until the economy turns around, car makers are reluctant to build up inventory again.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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People Want the Solar Sun Roof on Their Prius

    Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. Inc. President Jim Lentz had a lot to say at the 2009 Center for Automotive Research Management Briefing Seminars.

    According to Lentz, people want the solar panel on top of their Prius. Although Toyota had estimated 2-3% of customers would opt for the solar panels, the going rate is actually closer to 12%.

    That's putting a bit of a strain on production (along with the previously mentioned battery constraints on Prius sales). Toyota is currently projecting 135-140,000 units sold in 2009 for the Prius.

    Sales are very brisk under the Cash for Clunkers (CARS) program, as the Prius has had the days supply drop to 6-7 days, which indicates long waiting lists. (A 6-7 days supply indicates it's taking less than a week to sell the Prius once it arrives on the dealers lot. In other words, it takes 6-7 days to move the Prius off the lot after calling the customer to let them know the Prius they had ordered was finally here).

    Lentz says the Prius has been sold 5,400 times under the Clunkers program.

    Oh, and Lentz also mentions the Blue Springs, MS plant is still set for Prius production. They just aren't going to start up until the 'volatility' in the present market goes away.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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AP Claims Obama Will Not Release Cash For Clunkers Numbers

    Yes, the Transportation Department has released their top 10 list of vehicles being traded in and being sold, but so far, the AP can't get their hands onto a detailed list of sales.

    Source: SPIN METER: $3 billion buys not-so-green vehicles
    Just how many consumers used the federal rebates to buy these larger, not-so-green vehicles is unclear. The Obama administration has declined so far to release detailed records of purchases under the program being compiled by the Transportation Department, listing every clunker deal requesting rebates. The Associated Press requested the data July 31.
    And the AP may be right to be concerned. Not because the information isn't true, but because of the possible 'spin' factor.

    Edmunds.com, for instance, has said they believe fewer small cars and more large vehicles are being bought.

    BTW, the current sales figures from the Transportation Department show 292,447 vehicles have been sold, at a cost of $1.2 billion to the government program.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Cash for Clunkers Positive Results

Senate Passes Funding for Cash for Clunkers

    As expected, the Senate has passed the funding bill for the Cash for Clunkers program. For another $2 billion, the CARS program is expected to last through September. President Obama is expected to sign the bill ASAP.

    The $2 billion is being transferred out of the money set aside for the Innovative Technology Loan Guarantee Program, which was part of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Stimulus Act).

    I would expect sales will slow after the initial rush, although dealers and the government are still working to clear all the claims already made. So it's hard to guess how long the CARS program will take to run through the next $2 billion. It only took a week to run through the first billion.

    The Senate vote 60-37 to pass the bill, after stripping out the seven amendments attached by some of the Senators. If they hadn't stripped out the amendments, the House would have had to get together with the Senate to work out the differences. Since the House was already in recess, that would have delayed it until September. Which probably would have ended the program, as the Obama administration had already warned the program was out of money and would probably be done on Friday without extra funding.

    The beginning text of the bill:
    For an additional amount for `Consumer Assistance to Recycle and Save Program' to carry out the Consumer Assistance to Recycle and Save Program established by the Consumer Assistance to Recycle and Save Act of 2009 (title XIII of Public Law 111-32), not to exceed $2,000,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010: Provided, That such amount shall be available for such purpose only to the extent directed by the President, and shall be derived by transfer from the amount made available for `Department of Energy--Energy Programs--Title 17--Innovative Technology Loan Guarantee Program' in title IV of division A of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Public Law 111-5): Provided further, That the amount under this heading is designated as an emergency requirement and necessary to meet emergency needs pursuant to sections 403 and 423(b) of S. Con. Res. 13 (111th Congress), the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2010.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Cash For Clunkers Numbers Updated

    The Dept of Transportation announced some more numbers for the CARS program (Cash for Clunkers). With 180,000 sales processed, the Ford Focus is no longer the top vehicle being purchased. (Source: Autonews).  Instead, the Toyota Corolla is now the number one vehicle consumers have purchased using the up to $4,500 in rebates when they trade in their 'clunker' to be recycled.

    The top five vehicles purchased so far:
    1. Toyota Corolla
    2. Ford Focus
    3. Honda Civic
    4. Toyota Prius
    5. Toyota Camry


    Over 80 percent of the trade-ins were light trucks, sport utilities, pickups and vans. 59 percent of the new vehicles are passenger cars. The fuel economy of the trade-ins has average 18.5 mpg, while the fuel economy of the new purchases is averaging 25.3 mpg.

    Federal reimbursements have been sent out to the tune of $775.2 million so far.

    The Senate is expected to pass (without amendments) the same version of the bill the House passed last week to fund the program with another $2 billion. If any amendments were approved, the House and Senate would need to get together and work out the bill. With the House already on recess, that would delay the funding of the program.

    The Obama administration has stated they would have to suspend the program at the end of the week if new funding was not approved by Congress.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Cash for Clunkers Numbers

    The top three cars purchased through the CARS program so far were the Ford Focus, Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla. Next on the list was the Toyota Prius. The Civic, Escape, and Camry have hybrid versions, but I haven't seen if buyers were opting for the hybrid versions of the vehicles.

    83% of the vehicles traded in to be scrapped were trucks and SUVS (not surprising given the maximum mpg values allowed for the trade in). 60% of the vehicles purchased were passenger cars (Source: Cash for Clunkers cars: Small wins big - CNN.com).

    The Top 10 Picks for the CARS Program (Source: NYTimes):
    1. Ford Focus
    2. Honda Civic
    3. Toyota Corolla
    4. Toyota Prius
    5. Ford Escape
    6. Toyota Camry
    7. Dodge Caliber
    8. Hyundai Elantra
    9. Honda Fit
    10. Chevrolet Cobalt

    Overall, the fuel economy increase from the old vehicles has been 61 percent, with the new vehicles getting 25.4 mpg.

    The top 10 vehicles being traded in were domestic models (Source: LATimes):
    Ford Explorer 2WD and 4WD, Ford F-150 2WD and 4WD, Jeep Cherokee and Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD, Dodge Caravan, Chevy Blazer 4WD, Chevy Silverado 1500 2WD and Ford Windstar.

    Senators are saying the $2 billion bill to extend the Cash for Clunkers program passed by the House is likely to pass the Senate this week.  The legislation would transfer the money from an Energy Department loan guarantee program in the economic stimulus package approved in February.

    As of 11:30 a.m. Tuesday, 157,000 transactions had been completed across the country and $664 million in federal vouchers spent as part of the CARS program, said Eric Bolton, spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Where are the Cash for Clunkers Numbers?

    Despite rumors on the number of cars sold using the Cash for Clunkers program, there are no numbers yet to back up what or how many have occurred. And that's worrying to the AP:Obama administration withholds data on clunkers - Yahoo! News
    The Associated Press has sought release of the data since last week. Rae Tyson, spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, said the agency will provide the data requested as soon as possible.

    DOT officials already have received electronic details from car dealers of each trade-in transaction. The agency receives regular analyses of the sales data, producing helpful talking points for LaHood, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs and other officials to use when urging more funding.

    LaHood said in an interview Sunday he would make the electronic records available. "I can't think of any reason why we wouldn't do it," he said.
    So, go ahead and do it? Congress is looking to put in $2 billion more into the program. And the program has continued this week, despite possibly being out of money.  The least the Obama administration could do is release the numbers they have.

    I'd be most curious about the difference in fuel economy, not to mention the makes and models of the cars being bought and sold. Ford has stated the CARs program has been extremely helpful for them. But rumors are saying a majority of the cars being bought are from Honda and Toyota.

    Quick Update:
    Bloomberg has a story on the numbers being released. The CARS program is currently hiring twice as many consultants just to handle the claims being made.

    Vehicles made by the three largest U.S. automakers -- General Motors Co., Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler Group LLC --were fewer than half of sales under the program through Aug. 1, according to Transportation Department data obtained today. The companies accounted for 47 percent of the clunkers transactions.

    About 80,500 transactions had been logged at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which is administering the program. That doesn’t include the backlog.

    Vehicles traded in under the program averaged 15.8 miles per gallon, compared with 25.4 miles per gallon for the new purchases, or a 61 percent improvement, according to the Transportation Department data.
    That's a good deal of improvement for the cars being traded in, although I hasten to point out 80,000 vehicles is just a drop in the bucket for overall sales.  That's about 8% of the sales made in July, for instance.  And sales were still down 12% from last year, never mind what they were down from two years ago.

    This program is moving so fast, it's hard to keep up with the latest information.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Cash for Clunkers Continues Without the Cash

    White House says Cash for Clunkers is still running, even if they don't have the money for it???

    Source:White House Says Cash for Clunkers Is Up and Running
    The White House insists the too-successful cash for clunkers program, despite running out of money, remains up and running Friday and will continue to operate through the weekend as the administration seeks additional funding for it.

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters the Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS) program remained "up and continuing to run," according to Politico.com. For those intending to buy a car over the weekend, "the program will be in place," Gibbs said.

    But Gibbs did say the administration is trying to find additional funding the program even as Congress recess for the August break. Congress reportedly is voting Friday on an additional $2 billion for CARS. An update is expected later in the day.

    What happens if they spend another billion over the weekend? Even if Congress hasn't OK'd it?Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Another $2 Billion for Cash For Clunkers?

    Democrats are looking to add $2 billion to the Cash for Clunkers Bill.  And when that's gone in another eight days?

    According to a Reuters report, legislators are working to put another $2 billion into the CARS program, a move that would keep the popular program ($1 billion in the first four official days of the program) alive. But if it took four days to spend $1 billion, will it take just another eight days to spend another 2?

    The vote, if it comes, would come as early as Friday in the House. Since the House goes on recession late on Friday, it would have to.

    The Senate would also have to approve the funds immediately.

    The original intent was to provide $4 billion over a period of one year, but the program was cut back to 1 over 3 months. The money lasted four days.Source URL: https://ashesgarrett.blogspot.com/search/label/Cash%20for%20Clunkers
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Cash For Clunkers May be Done?

    The Detroit Free Press is reporting the Cash for Clunkers program has been so successful that it may already be finished, four days after its official start.  It was supposed to last up to three months, but the government made it clear it would only last until the money was spent.

    On Wednesday night, sources said the National Automobile Dealers Association surveyed its dealers to gauge how many Cash for Clunker transactions they had in the works. The average number of working deals for the 1,900 dealers who responded amounted to nearly 14 transactions, with more deals qualifying for the top $4,500 voucher than the $3,500 voucher. (Source; Edmunds AutoObserver)
    $1 Billion, blown through in four days.  That's mind-blowing.

    The big question may be what vehicles have been scrapped, and what cars have been put out on the road.  Autobytel looked at the vehicles being searched for on their site and came up with a list of trucks being checked for their eligibility:

    1. Ford F-Series
    2. Ford Explorer
    3. Chevrolet C/K/Silverado
    4. Jeep Grand Cherokee
    5. Dodge Ram
    6. Chevrolet Blazer
    7. Jeep Cherokee
    8. Dodge Grand Caravan (minivan)
    9. Dodge Dakota
    10. Ford Ranger

    I hope the government puts some numbers out on what cars were bought using the taxpayers money. 

    In the meantime, consumers and dealerships are starting to get worried.  What happens if the CARS program gets suspended, even though a dealership has already sold a new car?
    Ken Czubay, Ford Motor Co.’s vice president of U.S. sales and marketing, said many Ford dealers are worried that they will be out thousands of dollars per car if they sell a vehicle to the consumer, disable the engine, and find out later the funding has been exhausted.
    Oh, and remember the 'refresh' of the mileage data which forced some people who had already made the deal to suddenly lose out, when their 'clunker' went from 18 mpg to 19 mpg, making them ineligible?
    Federal officials also said today that the government would honor any deal agreed to before changes made in a federal database of mileage figures last Friday.
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